Francis Tivey was born in Melbourne Derbyshire about 1810 and his tree can bee seen in Group 15 of L F Tivey's group.  His parents are thought to be William Tivey and Ann Salsbury of Group 4.  Evidence noted in Settlement Examination Papers for his Wife in 1841 suggest this. His wife quotes his date of birth as being 10 December 1810 at Melbourne, Derbyshire.

Francis Tivey enlisted first with the 95th Regiment of Foot in 1827, before transferring to the Royal Marines in 1829. . While with the 95th Foot, he served with the Depot troops in Portsmouth/Gosport, although the main body of the regiment was stationed in Malta.

After transferring to the Royal Marines, he served on the 18-gun sloop HMS Columbine in the West Indies from 1830 to 1834. He had a break of about six months, when he married in Pembroke, and his son William Francis Tivey may have been born about November 1835, apparently in the parish of Pater in Pembroke .

In September 1835 Francis Tivey signed up in Portsmouth for HMS Harrier, which took him to South America in 1835-1839, a long stint away from home. This ship crossed to the Caribbean and then sailed south down the Atlantic coast of Brazil, Uruguay and Argentina, rounded Cape Horn, and then up the Pacific coast of Chile and Peru, returning by a similar route.

After another break (eight months), in March 1840 he signed up for HMS Britannia, which was based in Malta with the eastern Mediterranean fleet. The ship's log is missing for some of this period, but it is possible to construct her whereabouts from the shipping reports in the Times. It seems she was not actively involved in engagements taking place off the Syrian coast at that time, but served mainly as a support vessel at Malta.

There is a note in Britannia's muster books regarding an allotment of Francis Tivey's pay (authorised 1 April 1840). This indicates that part of his wages were to be paid directly to a dependant in England (usually wife or parent). Unfortunately the allotment registers for this ship for 1840 do not survive.

In July 1841 Francis Tivey was taken ill in Malta and admitted to the Royal Naval Hospital there. HMS Britannia left for Corfu without him, and a few weeks later he got a passage home on HMS Dido, arriving back in Portsmouth on 18 August 1841.

Two months later he joined HMS St Vincent, the flagship in Portsmouth Harbour. This was no doubt less arduous than being at sea and would have allowed him to spend time with his family. Some excitement was occasioned when this ship joined the squadron that escorted Queen Victoria and Prince Albert's Royal Yacht on a trip to Belgium in September 1843. Unfortunately the musters for the St Vincent do not survive for this period, so we cannot be sure Francis Tivey was on board at the time. His discharge papers state that he did two stints on this ship, with a seven-month break between, and that he finally left her on 23 Sep 1843. At that date she was moored in Cork, Ireland.

There has been no further information on him until 10 May 1844, when he was admitted from the Portsmouth HQ to the Haslar Hospital in Gosport. After six weeks in hospital he was deemed "unserviceable" and was discharged from the Royal Marines on 23 June 1844. The Portsmouth Discharge Book gives his age then as 36 years 2 months. This cannot be relied upon 100% but may help pinpoint his birth date.

There are no records of a formal re-enlistment at either Portsmouth or Woolwich. There was extensive recruiting of troops at this period, both for the Crimea and for India, but it is in  doubt whether he would have re-entered active service at this stage, especially given his previous ill-health. It may be that he was instead employed informally on light duties in the Woolwich/Greenwich area.

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FRANCIS TIVEY      
Year Date Ship/Unit Event Source Remarks
           
1827 18 Apr 95th Foot Attested in Derby 1 age 17
2 May   Sent to Leeds 2 on paybooks from 8 May at 1s. per day
22 June   Marched to Sunderland 2  
27 June   Embarked on ship Flora for Portsmouth 2  
8 July   Arrived Portsmouth 2  
July - Dec   Portsmouth 2 serving with Depot troops 7th Coy.
1828 Jan - Mar   Portsmouth 2 in hospital 3 days
Apr - Dec   Fort Monkton, Gosport 2 in hospital 16 days
1829 Jan - Sep   Fort Monkton, Gosport 2 in hospital 6 days
           
26 Sep   Enlisted in 2nd Div. Royal Marines, Portsmouth 2, 3 Private, age 19
1830 10 June HMS Columbine Joined crew of HMS Columbine, Portsmouth 4 Private (3rd class), age 20
Sep    Sailed for West Indies, arrived Jan 1831 5, 6  
1831 Jan - Dec   West Indies service 5, 6 see Note 1
1832 Jan - July   West Indies service + Canada 5, 6 see Notes 1, 2
Aug   Halifax, Nova Scotia, for repairs and refit 5, 6  
Sep - Oct  Cruising along coast of Canada 5, 6 see Note 2
Nov - Dec   West Indies service 5, 6 see Note 1
1833 Jan - Mar   West Indies service 5, 7 see Note 1
Apr - May   Halifax, Nova Scotia 5, 7  
June - Aug Exercising off coast of Canada 5, 7 see Note 2
Sep   Departed Port Royal, Jamaica, for England 5, 7  
1834 Feb   Arrived Sheerness 5, 7  
12 Mar   Crew paid off at Sheerness 4, 5, 7  
           
1835 24 Sep HMS Harrier Joined crew at Portsmouth 4, 8  
5 Nov   Sailed for South America 9  
31 Dec   Arrived Rio de Janeiro 9  
1836     South American service 9 see Note 3; 7 yrs service completed 26 Sep
1837     South American service   see Note 3
1838     South American service   see Note 3
1839 8 May   Departed Rio de Janeiro for England 9  
10 July   Arrived Spithead 9  
18 July   Crew paid off at Portsmouth 4, 9  
           
1840 13 Mar HMS Britannia Joined crew at Portsmouth 4, 10 pay allotment authorised 1 Apr
    [Ship's log missing 1 Oct 1840 - 31 May 1841]    
18 Dec   Arrived Malta   see Note 4
1841 Jan - May   Eastern Mediterranean service   see Note 4
31 May   Returned to Malta 10, 11  
3 July   Admitted to Royal Naval Hospital, Malta 10, 12 diarrhoea
22 July   Discharged to HMS Dido for passage home 12, 13 mustered as supernumerary, invalid
17 Aug HMS Dido Arrived Spithead 13, 14  
18 Aug   Disembarked Portsmouth, crew paid off 4, 13, 14  
           
15 Oct  HMS St Vincent Joined crew at Portsmouth 4 see Note 5
Oct - Dec   Portsmouth Harbour 15  
1842 Jan - Nov   Portsmouth Harbour 15  
8 Nov   Discharged at Portsmouth 4, 15  
           
1843 16 Jun HMS St Vincent Rejoined crew at Portsmouth 4, 15  
20 Aug   Channel coast east to South Foreland 15  
12 Sep   Channel 15 in squadron escorting Royal Yacht to France
23 Sep   Arrived Ireland, FT discharged in Cork? 15 see Note 6
           
1844 10 May  Portsmouth Admitted to Haslar Hospital, Gosport 16 rheumatism, diarrhoea; admitted from HQ
23 June   Discharged from the service 4, 16, 17, 25 age 36y 2m according to Discharge Book
4 July   Awarded Greenwich pension 17, 18 served 16y 2m 12d, Life pension £12 4s. per yr
        conduct and character Good; see also Note 7
July - Dec   Pension paid at Portsmouth 19 out-pension No. 2636
1845 Jan - June   Pension paid at Portsmouth 19  
1 July Woolwich Pension paid at Woolwich 20  
1846 1 Jan Pembroke Pension paid in West Wales 21  
1851 1July Deptford Pension paid at Deptford 22  
1852 4 June Woolwich William Francis Tivey attested for Royal Marines 23 4th Div. 28th Coy. as Drummer, age 16y 7m
1853 24 Jan   William Francis Tivey discharged 23, 24 "incapable of learning his duties"; see Note 8
1854 2 Feb Deptford Pension suspended, Francis rejoined service 22 see Note 9
         
           
Sources at the National Archives, Kew    
1 ADM 157/346/266 Royal Marines' Attestation Forms (Portsmouth) 1827
2 WO 12/9529-9531 Muster Books 95th Foot 1827-1829
3 ADM 157/347/517 Royal Marines' Attestation Forms (Portsmouth) 1828-1829
4 ADM 157/365/280 Royal Marines' Attestations & Discharges (Portsmouth) 1837-1883
5 ADM 37/7998-8000 Ships' Musters HMS Columbine 1830-1834    
6 ADM 51/3103 Captain's Logs HMS Columbine 1826-1834    
7 ADM 53/243-244 Ships' Logs HMS Columbine 1833-1836    
8 ADM 37/9174-9178 Ships' Musters HMS Harrier 1835-1839    
9 ADM 53/666-667 Ships' Logs HMS Harrier 1835-1839    
10 ADM 37/8767-8771 Ships' Musters HMS Britannia 1839-1841    
11 ADM 53/188 Ships' Logs HMS Britannia 1839-1841    
12 ADM 102/542 Hospital Musters - Malta 1841    
13 ADM 37/8991 Ships' Musters HMS Dido 1841    
14 ADM 53/456 Ships' Logs HMS Dido 1841    
15 ADM 51/3737 Ships' Logs HMS St Vincent 1841-1844    
16 ADM 102/323 Hospital Musters - Haslar 1844    
17 ADM 6/305 Greenwich Hospital Register of Applicants for Out-Pensions 1844
18 ADM 22/443 Greenwich Hospital Pensions Remittance Book 1844-1846
19 WO 22/87 Chelsea and Greenwich Out-Pensions (Portsmouth) 1842-1852
20 WO 22/64 Chelsea and Greenwich Out-Pensions (Woolwich) 1842-1852
21 WO 22/114 Chelsea and Greenwich Out-Pensions (West Wales) 1842-1852
22 WO 22/23-24 Chelsea and Greenwich Out-Pensions (Deptford) 1842-1862
23 ADM 158/69 Royal Marines' Description Book (Woolwich) 1818-1868
24 ADM 81/16 Royal Marines' Discharge Book (Woolwich) 1850-1856    
25 ADM 185/65 Royal Marines' Discharge Book (Portsmouth) 1845-1851
Notes          
1 West Indies: Puerto Rico, Jamaica, Barbados, Antigua, Martinique, Dominica, St Lucia, St Vincent, Demerara, Virgin Islands, Chagres, Nicaragua
2 Canada: Halifax, St Johns, Prince Edward Island, Gaspe, Douglas, Mingan
3 South America: Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo, Bahia, Maceio, Montevideo, Santiago, Valparaiso, Callao, Islay, Arica
4 Eastern Mediterranean: Malta, Marmoris, support for ships engaged in action off Syrian coast (as reported in The Times, Jan - May 1941)
5 HMS St Vincent served as the flagship for Portsmouth Harbour. Muster books are missing
6 HMS St Vincent moored at Cork on discharge date    
7 Marching money paid to Derby via London 172 miles (17 days) 18s. 5d; family allowance (wife £1 1s. 6d, 3 children £2 3s.) total £3 4s. 6d
8 Attestation/discharge papers have him born in the parish of Pater, Pembroke, about Nov 1835
9 No re-enlistment record found for Royal Marines in Portsmouth or Woolwich 1854-1871
           

 

**With notes on his son William**
Francis Tivey ~ Royal Marine ~ 1810(c)- 1883
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